Hikkomori; an "Analysis"  

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The Evil Genius
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19/10/2019 9:38 pm  

Below is a video lecture on the topic of Hikkomori. Now if you don't want to watch the video let me give you a summary. Hikkomori is the phenomenon of social isolation. Or as we MGTOW understand it: exiting society. What is interesting in the video is that this is treated as a mental illness. Social withdraw is considered a "problem"--a clinical illness one "suffers". And the lecturer makes an interesting Freudian slip at 17:50 in which he describes people "suffering"  from social isolation as "infected" then corrects himself with the word "affected". So from his point of view those who reject the distractions and illusions of society have somehow been infected with something that must be treated.

As MGTOW we know there is nothing "wrong" with these guys but something very "right" with them/us. The lecturer never considers the possibility that these men have evaluated the toxic/destructive forces of our society and simply decided to remove themselves from this environment. In fact he never even discusses the environmental influences but just assumes that society is WONDERFUL and anyone questioning it must be mentally ill. Obviously his premise is deeply flawed, and fails to recognize the individual CHOICE men have made--oh no that doesn't enter into the equation at all.  He does however recognize that men withdrawing from the rat race imperils society--and THAT is the real point. This is all about men choosing to refrain from rescuing a doomed society. Well I have some bad news for this guy. It is not the men who are mentally disturbed, it is society that has the problem. And all the drugs and therapy in the world will not halt the movement of men away from this cesspool. We will continue to enjoy the peace and tranquility of solitude and we will watch their filthy society consume itself and burn to ground. Good riddance


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20/10/2019 7:28 am  

But we are not isolated. I know I can't talk for the rest of my MGTOW brothers, but I've been more social since the divorce. Reconnecting with old friends and making many new ones. In fact, in the next hour we gathering at a mates house for fire cooked meat, beers and rugby. SA vs Japan will be a good game. 

 

Freedom to the caged bird must be a scary prospect. Instead of talking about my decision, I've decided to represent what freedom can mean. It's not a really big truth bomb, but was asked when am I moving forward and finding a new girl. My response is why is a new girl considered moving forward? What value can a woman bring to my life? Is sex really worth the shit that comes along with it? I'm not hating on women, I'm loving on myself. That's the difference I'm living. 

 

I got the obvious knee-jerk reactions, but I did get a few thoughtful pauses. How do you explain to me that despite being the happiest I've been in years, I'm actually sad and I don't know it? Hell, I'm putting together a holiday to visit the highest bridge bungee jump in the southern hemisphere. It's is a new mindset that goes against the programming. There is some culture shock. But don't tell me a new world, and new opportunities hasn't opened up to me. I've made up a bucket list, and fuck anyone who will stop me from doing it all.

 

MGTOW has had a positive effect on my life. In a few days I've gone from suicidal to craving the next adventure. There is zero orthodox psychiatrists who can boast the same results. 

 

I used to be married, but I'm better now


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20/10/2019 12:54 pm  

BINGO Grey! psychiatrists are money grubbing snake oil peddlers. When I was a kid I got sent to a few of them (sometime via court order HA HA) but not one figured out that I was on the autism spectrum---oh no they had all kinds of other theories and wanted to pump me full of pills. BTW never took a single pill that was ever prescribed! Fuck them. What finally straitened out my life? Not years of "therapy" from know it all's. NOPE it was 10 minutes with a Army Drill Sergeant.  


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20/10/2019 4:52 pm  

Epic topic!

I have always been a Sigma male that had very high tech, high skill hobbies.

None of the "other boys" actually understood what I was doing. Telling them how to do create circuit boards and developing things that actually work was like saying the same to my mother's dumb cats.

For decades my "worth" to sociecty was defined by the things I never wanted to do: Dancing, going out to loud, expensive and obnoxious discotheques...

(BTW, I had better sound at home...)

The shaming stopped the moment my foolish hobbies had landed me as a local celebrity who fixed the most complicated faults in people's homes. They were astonished with the ease I was fixing and mounting entire systems that most of my long standing competitors were regularly failing at.

I often finished their projects.

That's the moment when the parents of the "giggling" dumb girls - who were now adult children - told them how much they paid for my services...

Women often bombarded me with "Oh, well, you were always an "interesting man", everyone knew that you will become someone one day..."

Yes, then everything changes... Money changes everything.

 

A Sigma male that is a hermit - but with money: No one dares to harass him with psychology bullshit and big pharma snake oil.

 

Fact: The average Joe's of the world get pissed about you when they get close to you only to give you "orders", ask for the 1723 favor - and expecting full compliance - since they passive-aggressively threaten to walk out on you, leaving you all alone... And you still refuse... Then there "must be something wrong with you"...

Society makes you pay them to be your friend...

Selling you love withdrawal as a punishment for not letting them exploit you...

Yes, once you have a wide range of skills, you have to become some kind of hermit or have others bombard you with solving THEIR problems... Without pay, I mean.

Until your place looks like crap, your health deteriorates due to the "when is it ready???" stress they cause... And you lose your life because the "friends" take you over as their "favor-slave"... And of course, you comply with every wish not to risk having the friendly parasites walk out on you... Oh... Shame... "No one wants you..." They make you feel bad when they take their hat and leave... While a real Sigma knows that this is a blessing.

The border you have to set automatically pisses people off, they withdraw because you no longer "function" for them, they see it as an offense... Then you get socially boycotted...

You can hear them screech or whisper: "That greedy motherfucker doesn't want to do XYZ for us..."

You are either a wealthy hermit or someone THEY exploit and step on like a doormat.

Once you are smart and capable, there is no going back.

 

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20/10/2019 5:18 pm  

Actually, making anything of yourself, getting somewhere, achieving the next level requires you to be some kind of hermit.

It requires getting shit done.

In my life, every friend that I had tried to "lay railroad tracks" through my life...

He was always there, always on the phone, always asking questions 24/7, even disrupting my sleep pattern... All day, all week: Can you pick me up?, do this, do that, oh, I am right outside, can you come out... Oh, I have a problem, my car won't start....

I cringe writing that. The last one even stole some of my shit... He must have "determined" that I no longer need some of my tools... The reward for letting a parasite in.

I am now back to full hermit... And getting shit done is very fulfilling.

People on the street would never notice that I choose to be by myself.

As a seasoned salesman that had everything under control in the most hostile of environments, it takes me 0.5 percent of my CPU power to simulate the "social guy" that everyone must just love...

I often chat up women... And then I tell them about my life with MCS, "induced by years of breathing pesticides and metal salts"... They "disconnect" in virtually seconds... If I kept up the "social show" and kept any of my conditions secret, I'd get laid every day.

But the toxicity of it all - And I also mean the perfume and mineral oil smell cunts bring with them - makes me rather disinterested in them.

Soldering a USB cable for the Garmin (One of those cables you can't buy) is more sparkling than having a night out with a dumb cunt.

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20/10/2019 6:51 pm  

When you live in a gynocentric society with no purpose (unless it is serving a girl/woman or your boss at your job that pay minimum wage while he is probably making millions behind your back) and that does not give a shit about you or the people you care about, then you may as well say fuck it and be on your own as long as there is somebody providing for you, be it a family or welfare.

 

Not only that, if you are smart enough, you will see through the bullshit that society has built to fool you, from the monetary system to the "justice" system, from a bugged education to a fake bill of rights that is all words and no facts. And it is all so tiresome that you clearly have little to no will of partecipating in such a mess, unless you create a goal for yourself and decide to reach it no matter what the cost or the time needed is. It also requires being selfish and be ready to build your own personality, free from society's judgment and from what you have been told for your whole life.

I do not want to condemn or judge people that decide to withdraw from society, either if they live in a room or in an island or in the forest, they are sending a clear message and that is "this is not worth my time and life".

So what do society do in this case? do they wonder why those people refuse to partecipate? do they try to find any solution to the problem?

Usually no, there are so many people ready to slave away, so many immigrants ready to take one more job and one more rent. The only problem would be if those people actually organized themselves to change society, to rebel or to create a new one. But that would only happen with a unification and what we are witnessing is not people uniting but separating into single units. Divided they will fall, and that is one of the goals of today's society, dividing people, making them strangers and be sure that alone they are not a problem.

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21/10/2019 2:59 am  

I have been questioned several times about my decision of not dating or playing around with the females that society claims improves my life. I do not hold back in responding. I tell them that I rather not have some person I never met before have a claim to everything I have because of their sex. I then ask them how they would feel if some guy showed up and could claim half or more of their property, possessions or resources, simply by having sex with them. At this point, I get a disgusted look and the conversation ends, but never have any female ever been able to answer that question. I suppose it will just be rhetorical, considering we already know the answer. 

There is nothing beneficial for a man to hook up with a female, unless all he wants in life are kids. Once he has them, his life is forfeit until the legal and societal laws release him from what he supposedly owes a female for spreading her legs. If you did just want kids, and were unfortunate enough to get a female who is not capable (becoming exceedingly common) you still have to pay in an amount strangely like prostitution, as the consideration of how long you had sex with the female plays the biggest part in this.

I was actually asked in court the common place of my sexual interactions with my ex during my divorce. I had stated that it didn't matter and the judge said she would decide that. Fortunately, this was the second of five different judges I would have, being my ex would run make a new claim in a new county, forcing the court to relinquish the case to the new location. She would do this to avoid consequences for lying under oath. Those that know me know the whole story, but it is quite a show of how justice is no longer in our court systems. It is a money making system and cares for no one. It is simply a business that the ignorant females fall into the trap of, and only after do they realize how much they lost in trying to get even or get rich from the process. Useful idiots. What part of this would any sane man want to be a part of. 

Being isolated from this insanity is the only sane thing left for a man to do, if he wishes to have an enjoyable and productive life. I remember the news as a kid stating divorce was rare and downplaying this, but as I am now older and wiser to the situation, I now know that this is the most prevalent status of relationship in all places that females are "empowered." A man being isolated removes that empowerment and in direct effect, this removes the money from the sham that is our justice system. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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21/10/2019 7:53 am  

You all hit the nail on the head with the hammer!

Please put this in the "Best of The Best" section!

 

You automatically become a hermit once you uncunt. If you look around, everything around you:

- TV

- Radio and the "howling cunt" or "cat in heat" music to mostly plays

- Cars and the way they look

- Houses and the way they are "overstyled" and unaffordably priced

- Clinics and Doctors (Research and treatment mostly allocated to female matters)

- Restaurants

- Movies / Cinema

- Fairgrounds

- Festivals

... is being optimized for women and their needs or tastes. Everything panders to cunts or even exists only because of them.

Everything aims to get men to attract females and engage with them.

 

And real masculine man with his own taste and well working brain cells will find society BORING AS HELL on all levels.

Interesting men find their happiness in business trade fairs, bookkeeping and celebrating his "numbers", fixing cars, building houses, climbing mountains - Whatever...

All that is actually "outside of society" and is not "seen" by women. None of them ever respected a man for the things he did "outside of society" even if it brought her a lush life and a warm ass because of the heating system he just fixed...

 

If the "drag" and "pull" towards pussy has left you, a totally new life begins. Everything that tortures other men - the constant stress and strain of having to "keep up" with the competing "Joneses" is simply vanished.

That man who managed to throw the female validation and "playing the boring game" overboard will see that even the most demanding profession will not wear him out and will not bring him into an early grave.

Working 12 hours a day without the negative pressure on you is no problem.

I speak from experience.

I then had 6 hours to sleep and 6 full hours to enjoy all of my shit to the max. And on most days I did not work 12 hours, rather 9 to 10...

Money was always there without having the feeling that I break my neck to earn it...

 

No cunt = life in paradise. 

 

Live "lazy" with a 12 hour day, LOL and still enjoy life. Cunts are the drag on everything. A dead weight to pull you under water. A guillotine over your head giving a man plenty of psychosomatic illnesses.

 

Uncunting is completely worth it!

 

And laugh at them when they shame you for being a hermit...

I always carried 1000's of Euros in cash with me... And it was a great show in public to pull this stack of 500 Euro bills out of my wallet and show them how much my life "must suck"... I still remember the bewildered looks when the owner of that place confirmed to the assholes that "yep, it's his and he has plenty more where that came from"...

 

The local "opinion makers" hated my guts for not playing the social game.

"Hermit" was just one of the insults... LOL.

But they couldn't touch me. (Like the trolls of the MGTOW.com ownership were powerless, BTW)

But I made different mistakes, I regularly helped people who were in deep trouble, but that help was forgotten the second I needed their help. And fills another lesson. Men and women "forget" when you pull them from a wreckage...

BTW, one more reason to ghost society... When you help everyone on no good deed goes unpunished.

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21/10/2019 5:35 pm  

@gargamel

Absolutely correct Gargamel, this is an epic topic that can be addressed and vindicated at many levels. 

Self perception, social acceptance, cultural bias, vocation and avocation, they are all part and sum of human existence. Man must depart from their existing societal norms to establish and reset their moral and ethical standards, this allows them to then determine how and when they will engage with society in the future. 

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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23/10/2019 11:35 pm  

I have been MGTOW minded before the acronym was ever used.

It wasn't until I met other similar minded men that I realized I wasn't crazy as other men have seen it and live it too.  This is now a worldwide problem.  Meeting our Brothers here prove it.  I had figured I would just need to meet a foreign girl to fix all my problems.  WRONG-O!

They are ALL tainted!

 

 

 

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24/10/2019 1:32 pm  

@old-buck

Check Old-Buck, the issue is truly global is scope and scale.  Only a time machine or the SMOD (Sweet Meteor of Death) will resolve it.  Of course, SMOD resolves every issue.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

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25/10/2019 6:46 pm  

"Japan's modern-day hermits: The world of hikikomori"

from "France 24" TV

(Read the comment section)

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25/10/2019 7:14 pm  

"Hikikomori Loveless: What causes young Japanese hermits to give up on real life"

 

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25/10/2019 7:36 pm  

Dying Alone...

Better die alone than die early from a greedy cunt having stripped you of all you have...

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25/10/2019 7:43 pm  

We Westerners are next...

The Cunts wanted it that way. Their greed (aka "expectations") choked us men until we woke up and learned to keep our dicks in our pants.

Of course, THEY don't say that. Speaking the truth is now called misogyny...

"Japan Is Dying: All Work, No Sex Means No Future"

 

"Marry Yourself - Japan's Lonely Women | Journal Reporters"

(Insert Cat Pic Here)

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28/10/2019 6:31 pm  

This one by Black Pigeon Speaks just came in...

On the topic of the Japanese Leftover Women.

"LEFT OVER WOMEN & the Gigolos that Love Them"

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28/10/2019 7:07 pm  

Great topic and epic thread, indeed! My reverence for all this precise and ultimate truth bombing, Gentlemen, especially to you, Mister G!

One helluva bombing run! Way to go. Taking notes, here. Thank you. 

"Don´t ever let them blame, shame or tame you."

This is what a hermit looks like in nature.


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28/10/2019 8:10 pm  

https://www.iheart.com/content/2017-10-15-british-man-lives-in-the-woods-to-avoid-wife/

A man reclaiming his life. It is better as a man with the animals than with the females who treat you like an animal. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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29/10/2019 8:54 am  

More from Stardusk/Thinking Ape.

It's from 2013 but is still very relevant. These developments actually lead to the state the Japanese society currently is in...

 

"The Reality of Sexless Japan"

 

 

https://archive.org/details/Stardusk_Thinking_Ape_MGTOW_HD_Video_Collection_2013_2018_Volume_1_of_6/TheRealityOfSexlessJapan.mp4

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29/10/2019 11:38 am  

@ulynecro

Absolutely!  Well said Sir, well said.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

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