"Better to Die than to be a Coward" Gurkha motto  

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11/10/2018 7:10 pm  

The average Gurkha is 5 foot, 3 inches tall.

There are currently around 40,000 in the Indian, and 28,000 in the British Armies.  28,000 Gurkha candidates compete annually for just 200 places within the seven existing British Army Gurkha regiments.

Nepalese physiology provides for more red blood cells, higher oxygen consumption, less fatigue, a lower center of gravity and stronger leg muscles.  Part of the entrance qualifications is to run 5 Km up the foot hills of the Himalayas with 25 KG's of rocks on their backs in under 55 minutes.  An average persons brisk walking pace is 5 Km per hour, 12 minutes per Km on level ground with no encumbrance.

Their traditional personal weapon is the kukri, an 18-inch long curved knife.   Once drawn, the kukri is said to need to taste blood - if nor that of the enemy, then the individual drawing the weapon must cut himself before sheathing the weapon. Image result for image kukri

 

Gurkhas were first witnessed by European military members of the British East India Company.  After many battles and suffering immense casualties, the British forces signed a hasty peace treaty.  One term of the treaty was that Gurkhas were allowed to join the East India Company Army.

Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung is a World War II example of the fierce intensity and bravery displayed by Gurkha warriors.  In 1945, Gurung was in a trench with two other soldiers when 200 Japanese fighters opened fire on them.   After his comrades were wounded, Gurung noticed several incoming grenades fall into his position. He threw them back; however, after the first two, the third grenade exploded in his right hand.

Suffering massive injuries, Gurung managed to use his left hand to fire his rifle to kill several Japanese soldiers as they were storming his trench.  All in all, 31 Japanese soldiers were killed during the fight.  His fingers were blown off and his face, body, and right arm and leg were badly wounded.   As the Japanese stormed the trench, Gurung used his left hand to wield his rifle, defeating 31 enemies and preventing the Japanese from advancing. Gurung survived, and was awarded with a Victoria Cross later that year.

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though the use of the kukri may sound like ancient lore, a Gurkha soldier fighting in Afghanistan in 2011 provided DNA evidence of the death of a highly sought-after Taliban commander by beheading the insurgents corpse and carried the body part back to his base in a bag.

 

Toughest solider in the world ... maybe.   Most dangerous soldier in the world ... maybe.   Someone to respect, support and ensure good relations with ... most definitely.

 

 

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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Don Keyknob
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11/10/2018 7:41 pm  

Interesting reading. Click on each of the names and read their exploits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigade_of_Gurkhas_recipients_of_the_Victoria_Cross

Another take:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/g2173/10-amazing-gurkha-stories/

Popular joke about the Gurkha's:

Late on in the Second World War, as the Allies were fighting their way across northern Europe, a battalion of Gurkhas was asked to provide some volunteers for a mission behind enemy lines.

The unit was paraded, and a staff officer explained the mission: “It is absolutely vital that you need to go in and secure the position. We only expect light resistance from the Germans. You’ll be dropped from an aircraft at 1200 feet.”

The Gurkhas’ own commanding officer then asked for volunteers to take one step forward. About half of the men stepped forward.

The British officer was surprised. “I thought the Gurkhas were supposed to be the bravest men of all,” he said to the Gurkha c/o. “And it’s not as though we expect this to be a particularly dangerous job.”

“True,” said the Gurkha officer. “But half of them have just volunteered to jump from 1200 feet. Perhaps you should tell them they’ll have parachutes.”

 

 


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11/10/2018 7:51 pm  

Better to survive as a coward then go back and hunt every one of those motherfuckers down and kill them! (covertly) And live safely there ever after as an unsung hero! 

We never abandon our post, we maneuver! (B.C.F.C. militia motto)...  


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11/10/2018 8:18 pm  

Can I borrow a dozen? 

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11/10/2018 8:42 pm  
Posted by: Don Keyote

Interesting reading. Click on each of the names and read their exploits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigade_of_Gurkhas_recipients_of_the_Victoria_Cross

Another take:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/g2173/10-amazing-gurkha-stories/

Thanks Don. There are indeed many sources of information regarding the legend and courage of the Gurkhas that cause me to wonder if there might indeed be something about this nation of people.  While there are other information sources regarding "elite" warriors throughout history, none hold the level of mystique that the Gurkhas do in modern society.

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​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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11/10/2018 8:50 pm  
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The Gurkha Soldier

Thanks so much for sharing this Don.  I never had the honor of serving with a Gurkha unit, but would gladly support them at the drop of a hat.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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11/10/2018 8:59 pm  

I'm not sure exactly what it is GregBo. I think that duty and honour seems to be a particular value that they, as a Nation, hold dear. Their country has nothing - so back breaking hard work is just daily life to them. They haven't been spoiled as most of us have, which must lend itself to more of a selfish nature over time.

There was a Gurkha a few years ago who, after being attacked and out of ammo, started attacking the Taliban with sandbags and his gun tripod. You can teach tactics. You can't teach bravery.

These lads have that....and some to spare.

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11/10/2018 9:01 pm  
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Can I borrow a dozen? 

1967, The Dirty Dozen: Film, 1960s | The Red List

Yes....for two hours with your prettiest goat!!  😆 

(You wouldn't need a dozen. Just one. Point him in the right direction and watch the fun!)


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11/10/2018 9:18 pm  

Check Don.  Bulgarians and Czechs were similar, but did not have the generational legacy ... tough as nails however. 

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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11/10/2018 9:26 pm  
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Can I borrow a dozen? 

1967, The Dirty Dozen: Film, 1960s | The Red List

I would rather have the Sd.KFZ.9 that the actors, in working condition of course.  With it, you could carry close to 28 tons of stuff, more if you connected up to four at a time.

Two Sd.Kfz.9 's in Russia towing a Tiger I (Panzer VI version H) heavy tank,  54 tons.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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11/10/2018 9:28 pm  
Posted by: Don Keyote

There was a Gurkha a few years ago who, after being attacked and out of ammo, started attacking the Taliban with sandbags and his gun tripod. You can teach tactics. You can't teach bravery.

These lads have that....and some to spare.

 

In Afghanistan in 2010, Acting Sergeant Dipprasad Pun single-handedly fought off 30 Taliban soldiers. As Pun was keeping guard on the roof of a checkpoint, the attackers came at the complex from all sides with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s.

It took less than an hour for Pun to kill them all. He went through all of his ammo—400 rounds and 17 grenades, as well as a mine that detonated—to defeat each attacker. When he ran out of ammo, a Taliban soldier climbed up to the roof, only to be hit with a machine-gun tripod that Pun threw at him.

Pun's valor was rewarded with a Conspicuous Gallantry Cross, the second highest British military decoration awarded for bravery.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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11/10/2018 9:33 pm  

Even "retired" Gurkha's are serious business:

In 2011, 35-year-old retired Gurkha Bishnu Shrestha was riding a train in India when 40 robbers stopped the train and began stealing passengers' belongings. Still carrying his kukri knife, the Gurkha took on the robbers, themselves armed with knives, swords and pistols. Shrestha managed to kill three robbers and injure eight others, which persuaded the other robbers to flee. The retired soldier also saved another passenger from rape.

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As they say in the movies ... "You should have seen the other guys."

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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12/10/2018 12:49 am  
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Posted by: MG-Tower

Can I borrow a dozen? 

1967, The Dirty Dozen: Film, 1960s | The Red List

Yes....for two hours with your prettiest goat!!  😆 

(You wouldn't need a dozen. Just one. Point him in the right direction and watch the fun!)

Sorry Don, I had to loose the goats and turkeys, they were cramping my style! And now I finally get someone to take me up on the offer? Typical my business timing fucking sucks!!! 


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There was a Gurkha a few years ago who, after being attacked and out of ammo, started attacking the Taliban with sandbags and his gun tripod. You can teach tactics. You can't teach bravery.

These lads have that....and some to spare.

 

In Afghanistan in 2010, Acting Sergeant Dipprasad Pun single-handedly fought off 30 Taliban soldiers. As Pun was keeping guard on the roof of a checkpoint, the attackers came at the complex from all sides with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s.

It took less than an hour for Pun to kill them all. He went through all of his ammo—400 rounds and 17 grenades, as well as a mine that detonated—to defeat each attacker. When he ran out of ammo, a Taliban soldier climbed up to the roof, only to be hit with a machine-gun tripod that Pun threw at him.

Pun's valor was rewarded with a Conspicuous Gallantry Cross, the second highest British military decoration awarded for bravery.

Hahaha....yeah, that was the fella!!  🤣 

And I remember the train incident well too. I remember seeing a computer image a few years ago with the Gurkha emblem and the words "preventing bad things from happening to good people". Haven't seen it since and wished I'd have saved it. 


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12/10/2018 1:03 am  
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Sorry Don, I had to loose the goats and turkeys, they were cramping my style! And now I finally get someone to take me up on the offer? Typical my business timing fucking sucks!!! 

Don't beat yourself up over it Tower - you were just ahead of your time, that's all.  👍 

You knew it was a good idea before the world caught up with you!!!!


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12/10/2018 7:36 am  
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Sorry Don, I had to loose the goats and turkeys, they were cramping my style! And now I finally get someone to take me up on the offer? Typical my business timing fucking sucks!!! 

Don't beat yourself up over it Tower - you were just ahead of your time, that's all.  👍 

You knew it was a good idea before the world caught up with you!!!!

If that's true, when the world finds where they're heading (I'm already there), the world really isn't gonna like it, ALOT!!!  


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There was a Gurkha a few years ago who, after being attacked and out of ammo, started attacking the Taliban with sandbags and his gun tripod. You can teach tactics. You can't teach bravery.

These lads have that....and some to spare.

 

In Afghanistan in 2010, Acting Sergeant Dipprasad Pun single-handedly fought off 30 Taliban soldiers. As Pun was keeping guard on the roof of a checkpoint, the attackers came at the complex from all sides with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47s.

It took less than an hour for Pun to kill them all. He went through all of his ammo—400 rounds and 17 grenades, as well as a mine that detonated—to defeat each attacker. When he ran out of ammo, a Taliban soldier climbed up to the roof, only to be hit with a machine-gun tripod that Pun threw at him.

Pun's valor was rewarded with a Conspicuous Gallantry Cross, the second highest British military decoration awarded for bravery.

Hahaha....yeah, that was the fella!!  🤣 

And I remember the train incident well too. I remember seeing a computer image a few years ago with the Gurkha emblem and the words "preventing bad things from happening to good people". Haven't seen it since and wished I'd have saved it. 

Thirty to one and he killed them all.  No matter the tactical environment, no matter the availablel weapons systems, he took out 30 badguys.... imagine what the morale was for those watching this battle.  Everyone would be saying the same thing, it sucks NOT beimg a Gurkha!

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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13/10/2018 12:46 am  

Check Don.  It seems that these "gentleman" see things much crisper than most other folks.  Do the right thing or deal with me.  

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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13/10/2018 1:00 pm  

They have "rules of engagement" to keep war civilized!

The more two enemies hate one another, there's less rules, and more engagement! 


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