Notifications
Clear all

Living life as a young MGTOW  

Page 1 / 2
 

Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 6:29 am  

Hi everyone,

 

Its an honor to finally join the site officially, after being a lurker for many months. reading posts from so many wise men. I'm 23 going on 24 soon, I love spending my time alone as man, its something that's very understated how important it is for a man to have time alone. What is very hard for me, is dealing with sexual desires. Being young, the desires are hard to control sometimes. I browse Tinder a bit that has lead to many matches, due to having good facial features. But, I've learned from you guys, none of that should matter. I was born with Cerebral Palsy, witch affects how I walk very mildly in my legs. It still makes me uncomfortable when people stare at me, sometimes when I think about that it really hurts inside, you know? I've had a few girls that I've hung out with and had sex.

But, I know deep down its my disability that stops the girls from talking to me again in the future after the sex, as women won't usually date men with disabilities, as Sandman pointed out in a recent video. Some days living with my disability is tough, most days my confidence is great, other days it makes me feel down about myself a bit. I have a well built body, its just my disability that makes things different. I live in my own 2 bedroom apartment and have a great job. Which most of the women on Tinder and other sites can't say, as they still live with their parents and have betas by them all their meals, for just a hint of sex. I was there myself, with a girl in college, who I thought really liked me, we still talk, but I've realized just because I thought of the possibility of sex with her. I hung out with her and bought her dinner, many times in college, which I realize today, was a HUGE waste of my time, money, and energy as being a man and doing great things for myself. I wish it was easier controlling biology to not always want to have sex with women I'm attracted to, does it get easier to control as I age?With a lot of the girls, I've met on Tinder, I've really finally understood, the reason I would try to talk and get to know them, was to get sex. I've learned many women are boring and not worth my time, I need to always be focusing on myself, and never get married and never live together with a woman.

You guys make me realize I need to be visiting MGTOW sites and watching videos all time, to remember always how dangerous it is to get involved with and date women today for a young man like myself.  MGTOW, is such an amazing thing to discover in life for men, wish I found this info, while I was very young, as it would of and now, would have saved me from many nights of being sad and wondering why wasn't I good enough for a girl. Just a quick shutout to Don, your intro, really hit me good and reminded me, why its important to learn from older men on this and other MGTOW sites, so I can have the best life possible. I have friends who are my age married and or are in relationships and just think of how much danger they are in as men with being involved with women. Even myself, when I think about a woman I'm attracted to and want to have sex with, I need to remember that is a very dangerous thing to do as a young man in 2020. My grandmother and mother tell me as well, I need to always be professional in my job, don't tell anyone about my personal life away from work, never date co workers, never give a woman power over me.  I used to tell my mother when I would hang out with a girl, as she would ask, but learned to not tell her if I'm having sex with these women, as she lectures me on remembering to be very careful, who I'm having sex with, which she is right on. I know AWALT, but I always hope, my mother is always looking out for me, when she tells me something.

 

 

Thanks for the privilege of your time gentleman.


Beered by Don Keyknob, The Evil Genius, GregBO and 3 people
Quote
Uly The Cunning
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2813
27/01/2020 6:49 am  

You have a good head on your shoulders. As men, we have to remind ourselves that sex is a momentary pleasure that costs you until the female finds someone else to charge for her body. With the false rape accusations and the birth of the ultimate movement of lies to hide behind (metoo), men are at more risk than ever before to lose everything, including their future. When all is said and done, staying informed and keeping records of everything is your safest bet. Save every text, email, letter, voicemail and conversation that you have. That could be the only thing between you and a criminal charge and jail because she was angry. Welcome to the jungle.

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


Beered by Don Keyknob
ReplyQuote
Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 6:55 am  

@ulynecro

Yes Uly, thank you so much sir, that really means a lot. I need to learn to be very careful Snapchating chats or Tinder messages, as those can be deleted and yes that is so important for a man my age, it is very dangerous to be interacting with women for a chance at sex, as that could lead to my life being changed forever for all the wrong reasons. That is one of my biggest worries ever today in the current time period, is being #Metood at a young age.


ReplyQuote
Narrow road
Founder
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 261
27/01/2020 7:24 am  

Welcome Tomato. On the one hand not having romance. Especially when young, produces accute heartache. That's not fun at all.

A more immediate threat to you from women, is in business. In my opinion, the dangers women pose there. Isn't spoken of much here. Because many of the posters. Don't deal much with women anymore in business.

From a statistical standpoint. 51% of all adults are women. If they feel even a teensy bit uncomfortable around you. They may call a lawyer, then raid your bank account.

They may cry crocodile tears to HR. Then you'll most likely be fired. Most companies have a fire the man first. Ask questions later policy. 

Be aware and prepared brother. God bless


ReplyQuote
Uly The Cunning
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2813
27/01/2020 7:26 am  

There used to be a strong word of advice to have a body cam when in public or alone with a female, but that seems to have gone quiet. I still believe this is a great idea and should be practiced for men's protection. With the chance that a female boss or coworker, or your female neighbor gets you alone and then decides that you offended them in some way, this could be your only proof that they are lying. The sad truth is, without this, you are assumed guilty. It doesn't have to be high resolution. You just need to prove that you didn't do whatever crazy claim she makes, with video/audio that is detailed enough. They are not that expensive anymore, and at low resolutions, you can fit days of recording onto a memory chip the size of a dime.

Some men have resorted to a monk style of life, some have gotten sex dolls or fleshlights. The key is, this removes all stress of this, and you can focus on your life and living to the fullest. No matter your method of handling your natural urges, if no female is involved, you are already safer than most men.

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


ReplyQuote
Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 7:35 am  

@narrow-road

Yes sir,

 

So well said, as there are many women at my work place that are attractive, but I've always reminded myself, I can't date women I work with. I work at a Bank call center, so its talking on the phone all day helping customers, so the only people I have to see are my co workers. I had an older lady at work, complain about my voice being too loud, as my projection is very strong, with barely changing any tone or volume of my voice. I was moved recently, but got my very own space, on the other side of the room to myself, which is great, good things come out of a situation like that. That also showed me how dangerous women can be at the work place, even for a young man like me.  I get a lot of compliments from women on the phone, due to the sound of my voice, many seem to like it. The women will call me pet names, which I understand is fine, but the voice should not indicate in my opinion if the person is attractive. I'm always amazed, how women can tell how old I am by my voice, its hard to joke about my age with them. 

 

Also, another example really proved something to me again last night. I subscribed to Tinder Gold, and had 10 likes, out of the women I messaged, one got back to me and gave me her Snapchat, talked to her for a few hours and then she didn't respond to me. Makes me again kick myself and ask why do I waste my time. 

 

@ulynecro

Yes absolutely, these are very scary times for all men, dealing with women or dating, is pretty much a death sentence, once you as you said, make her feel negative towards you, either in the workplace or outside of work. Men are never cared about in today's society, and that really shows when my company posts its a top women workplace, what about myself a young man, why does no one care where I work or jobs for me.


Beered by Don Keyknob, Narrow road, The Evil Genius and 2 people
ReplyQuote
Newly Divorced
Man
Joined: 7 months ago
Posts: 73
27/01/2020 9:00 am  

I work with computers. I love it because I dont have to worry about those situations. I almost never see women in my work. You seem cool. Glad you joined this site.


ReplyQuote
Aussie
Founder
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 225
27/01/2020 9:05 am  

It's normal to want sex to need that. Even if you don't believe in seeing hookers I can only say that this is the safest sex you can have. None of the bullshit, just the pleasure that you need and then you walk away. If you want to, then you can even talk to the whore as well. After all they are the only honest women out there who admit that sex is a product and its for sale. I've had a few good short chats with them but not recently as most of the time I see the young Asians who speak no English !


Beered by Don Keyknob, The Evil Genius, GregBO and 1 people
ReplyQuote
Xanthine
Founder
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 336
27/01/2020 1:21 pm  

Honestly dude, you might want to consider buying a sex doll, or several of them. I'm 33 now, but I dated and banged a lot of girls in my 20's...because like most guys in their 20's, I had raging hormones, and was sort of obsessed with/addicted to sex. If I had any idea these things existed, and I had the money to afford them, I probably would not have even wasted my time dating, and I certainly wouldn't now. Out of all the girls I banged, probably less than 5% of them were even as good as dolls...and even the most attractive ones, there's really nothing that special about it that makes them worth the effort.

There's other things you have to consider now. First of all, it's pointless to pursue women for anything more than sex. In the age of smart phones, dating apps/sites, instagram, facebook, and other social media, quite simply you will NEVER find a female who is honest or loyal; it is basically hypergamy on steroids. Most of that stuff didn't exist when I was in my 20's, or was just in its infancy, and even then you still couldn't find someone honest or loyal. Let alone someone who was a decent person or a girl who is good for anything but sex. I spent most of my teens and entire 20's searching for one, and dated hundreds of girls...and never found one. And it's only gotten much worse since I was out there.

So basically, casual sex and dating is all they have to offer, and it's pointless to pursue that too. You'll waste so much of your time, energy, and money chasing it, and in the end it will NEVER be worth it, no matter how successful you are. Not only that, but it's never been easier for women to ruin men's lives. I ALMOST had my life ruined by a false rape accusation, just narrowly avoided it...and this was 10 years ago, well before they started teaching women in college to report consensual sex as rape. If that had happened to me today, my life would be over. There are so many ways they can attack you now, and they are being weaponized to do so. It just isn't worth it. You're much safer and better off with dolls. Either that, or nothing at all...personally though I prefer dolls.

Have a look at some of these links and see for yourself. They are not the cheap blowup dolls that people think they are. The higher end ones look better than most females these days. (not that that's saying much) Check them out:

WM Dolls 163cm H cup new body


Brand-New Akira From PiperDoll


WM 157cm B cup with #162 head


NEW WM Dolls 166cm 5ft4 C Cup (Updated with SRSD link)


https://reallovesexdolls.com/4ft7-140cm-d-cup-wm-doll/

It may seem weird at first, but think about it. Because trust me, when you have a harem of these things at home, there's no reason to even look at women when you go out or on dating sites. It's like the ultimate cheat code; you get to have your cake, and eat it too.


Beered by Don Keyknob and GregBO
ReplyQuote
Phoenixgod
Founder
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 53
27/01/2020 1:35 pm  

Welcome to the Independent Man, You're a young one like me, I'm going on 25 in June. It's nice to have some new younger people around because it is sign that the MGTOW philosophy is working


Beered by Don Keyknob
ReplyQuote
Morpheus
Man
Joined: 1 year ago
Posts: 187
27/01/2020 4:49 pm  

Welcome.

I am in my late 20s. My desire to fuck is pretty mild now. Wait for 3-4 years and the desire would wean off. If you have hot coworkers, don't even think about having one time sex and you should be good.


Beered by Don Keyknob
ReplyQuote
GregBO
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 3814
27/01/2020 6:18 pm  

@tomatoshadow2

Welcome to the site.  Continue to remember that the image in the mirror is not you.  You are the sum parts of physical, mental, emotional, spiritual and societal.   Do not become discouraged. 

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


Beered by Don Keyknob
ReplyQuote
Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 6:24 pm  

@Newly Divorced

Thanks, you as well.

 

@Aussie

 

Yes, interesting point.

@Xanthine

I've learned with the women I've had sex with, its not worth it with them, as they are just moving onto the next guy.

@Phoenixgod

 

Yes thanks for the welcome brother.

 

@Morpheus

 

Yes great to know thanks, as my sexual desires are still really high. Yes, I've never been involved with a co worker.

 

@GregBo

Thanks for the welcome.


ReplyQuote
GregBO
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 3814
27/01/2020 6:30 pm  
Posted by: @xanthine

Honestly dude, you might want to consider buying a sex doll, or several of them. I'm 33 now, but I dated and banged a lot of girls in my 20's...because like most guys in their 20's, I had raging hormones, and was sort of obsessed with/addicted to sex. If I had any idea these things existed, and I had the money to afford them, I probably would not have even wasted my time dating, and I certainly wouldn't now.

Check xanthine.  The money potentially saved and invested would represent a very nice next egg today!  While many people would consider sex a basic need, it is actually a luxury item like jewelry, tobacco, alcohol, fine clothing, etc. etc. etc.  Living at Maslow one of two, instead of 3 or 4, would save you a very significant amount of money long term. 

 

Image result for maslow's pyramid

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


ReplyQuote
Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 6:57 pm  

@gregbo

Interesting chart, thanks for posting, makes me think a lot.


ReplyQuote
GregBO
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 3814
27/01/2020 7:48 pm  
Posted by: @tomatoshadow2

@gregbo

Interesting chart, thanks for posting, makes me think a lot.

While Maslow has often been misrepresented since he published his research, his hierarchy motivational theory of needs can be used to ensure that you lead the life you want.   Many men stay at level two quite comfortably and do not miss the next level of love and belonging.  While belonging can be family, friends, coworkers and a sense of place with others; intimacy, love and associated relationships means something entirely different from men going their own way. 

best of luck.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


ReplyQuote
Tomatoshadow2
Man
Joined: 6 months ago
Posts: 108
27/01/2020 8:22 pm  

@gregbo

Yes very well stated Greg, its about loving oneself and remembering women only care about what the man can provide, not the actual man.


Beered by Don Keyknob and GregBO
ReplyQuote
The Evil Genius
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2041
28/01/2020 12:00 am  

Welcome brother! 

Sage advice from GregBo, Uly and others. I'm with Xanthine on this check out thedollhouse san antonio. https://www.thedollhousesanantonio.com/

As a young man you have natural drives that are difficult to ignore--but that doesn't mean you allow them to consume and destroy you. Its like anything else it can be managed in such a way as to give it liberty but not license. The problem of course is that as men we are hard-wired to connect the dots of "sex" = "love". Your survival is contingent upon breaking that paradigm---"love" is simply a tool used by women to take from us nothing more. IF you must do the sex thing approach it as a taking from them and nothing more. 

Thats the advice of an old nerd who has been monk for 25 years BUT in my youth I too climbed the mountain.  


Beered by Don Keyknob and GregBO
ReplyQuote
The Evil Genius
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2041
28/01/2020 12:05 am  

Years ago I worked with a guy who also had Cerebral Palsy. One day I'll tell you the tale of his meeting with a famous athlete. I was there I saw what happened and it was disgusting...so I know where you are coming from. 


Beered by Don Keyknob and GregBO
ReplyQuote
The Evil Genius
Admin
Joined: 2 years ago
Posts: 2041
28/01/2020 12:46 am  


Beered by Don Keyknob
ReplyQuote
Page 1 / 2
Advertisements