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07/12/2019 3:49 am  

Is MGTOW monk/No Fap the highest ideal, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve?


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07/12/2019 4:43 am  

Im a new MGTOW, so guys please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

For me its about being better than I was yesterday. Achieving my goals. Finding inner peace and a sense of contentment. I dont treat women any better or worse than I do men. I am still sexually active, but have had a vasectomy and still use a rubber. Dont tell them about the snip though. I will not cohabitate or even allow a sleepover. This is my sovereign space.

 

MGTOW isnt a one size fits all kind of thing. Its literally finding your own way in life. How you do that its up to you.

 

The commonality between the different MGTOWers is we do it without the socially programmed NEED for another person's validations. The only person who can make you happy, is you.

 

I am here because I need help reprogramming myself, and to help the next guy if possible. 

I used to be married, but I'm better now


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07/12/2019 7:16 am  
Posted by: @mgtowcontemplator

Is MGTOW monk/No Fap the highest ideal, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve?

Once your life brings you "too much to do" and what you do fulfills you in a way, fapping will be slowly "forgotten".

Slaying the dragon, achieving your goal, finishing your project, closing "that" balance changing sale, winning that contract - simply succeeding at anything you start will slowly make fapping rather "a job to do" to clear out the body toxins from the prostate and avoid getting cancer in that organ.   

That's why older (and younger, LOL) successful men are often no longer thinking with the little head when it comes to women.

Since women never had hobbies or ambitions, they can't empathize with this and wonder why after a certain age, men have different priorities.

Then, all "good men" with their achieved goals=money have gone and sit in their offices "Woman keyword: Boring" celebrating their monthly statement.

Enjoying peace while shivering at every thought of being in the married customer's shoes.

These men no longer dress up and waste time at nightclubs. There, women only get the men who are bored with life and have to pay off the car they can't afford but only bought to impress women in the first place.

 

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07/12/2019 12:12 pm  
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Im a new MGTOW, so guys please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

For me its about being better than I was yesterday. Achieving my goals. Finding inner peace and a sense of contentment. I dont treat women any better or worse than I do men. I am still sexually active, but have had a vasectomy and still use a rubber. Dont tell them about the snip though. I will not cohabitate or even allow a sleepover. This is my sovereign space.

 

MGTOW isnt a one size fits all kind of thing. Its literally finding your own way in life. How you do that its up to you.

 

The commonality between the different MGTOWers is we do it without the socially programmed NEED for another person's validations. The only person who can make you happy, is you.

 

I am here because I need help reprogramming myself, and to help the next guy if possible. 

 

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There is no wrong answer, just different viewpoints.  Mine just happens to be the same as Grey's.

Once I started putting the past behind me and focusing on my future, life has been more rewarding.  

The red pill is knowledge.  What you do with that knowledge is what matters.  If you know a minefield lays ahead do you keep marching oblivious to the danger, poke the ground with a stick and map a course, or do you simply walk around it?

What matters to you?  What brings you joy?  What are your necessities in life?  There is no single correct answer.

Maybe the answer to MGTOW enlightenment is brussel sprouts!

 

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Do NOT chase tail. Turn yours around and live FREE!


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07/12/2019 1:36 pm  
Posted by: @mgtowcontemplator

Is MGTOW monk/No Fap the highest ideal, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve?

The answer to your question is yes.

#Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. (Revelation 3:3)


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07/12/2019 7:38 pm  

I don't know that there is necessarily a "highest ideal" in MGTOW. It's more of a loose philosophy or mindset that men can adapt and apply to their own lives. The ultimate goal is to live for yourself and have the best life you can; anything that helps you with that is good.

I'd say in general, the less influence women have over your life, the better off you will be. There are too many psychotic, parasitic women out there who will ruin your entire fucking life just for fun. Society has made it way too easy for them to do this; all they really have to do is lie, something which they are naturally very good at. They also have nothing of positive value to offer, other than their holes. So it's a huge amount of risk, and cost, for little if any reward. There's a lot of ways they can fuck up your life, and they really don't bring much to the table. They will ALWAYS bring less to the table than the man, so it's a losing proposition for the man pretty much every time.

For me personally, I find that the risks are too great, and the payoff is too small. It just isn't worth it to even interact with them anymore. The amount of time and energy they can consume, combined with the low quality of what passes for female these days, just make it easier for me to give up on dating and go monk. Now I use my time and energy to pursue my own goals, and avoid letting parasites into my life. I can tell you that for me, it's been a night and day difference, and by far going monk is the best choice. I'm happier, I'm getting tons of things done, and it's just better in pretty much every way. But it's up to you to find the right path for yourself. 


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08/12/2019 1:11 am  

Beyond a certain age and wisdom point, filling a feminist shill forum up with cats and watching the trolls go psycho can be much more fulfilling than sex with a boring woman.

LOL.

It takes a monk "with issues" (LOL) to do such essential and indispensable jobs.

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08/12/2019 1:40 am  
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Enjoying peace while shivering at every thought of being in the married customer's shoes.

I want to point out that this is my main message to convey for the Christmas holidays.

If one of you brothers out there suffers from being lonely during the holidays, then take it from an end-customer "pleasing" retail entrepreneur that you have been sold a lie when it comes to family harmony during the Christmas and New Year's days.

In so many families, tension and suppressed feelings of dislike for the partner come to the surface and the persons live in a war zone instead of harmony.

That goes in line with police statistics that they run extra shifts during the holidays to restore order in families. (This is before the feminist madness turned the cops into a random discipline tool for cunts to punish their men with. My experiences come from a time 1970-1990 when the cops were still saying to the callers that they can't interfere with domestic affairs)    

In my family of origin, Christmas time was always hell for me and I only enjoyed not having to go to school.

I lost my wish for "harmony" completely when I - later in life - saw the Christmas madness around me through the eyes of a retail businessman whose most stressful period in the entire year was Christmas time.

It can go so far as pushing all sexual feelings out of you because you see every day what happened to those same age men who did not keep their dicks in there pants.

Today's cunts are consumerism vampires. And they raise their kids to be the same way.

No fapping for or over women since they have lost every real life glory around them.  No fantasies left for the vampire gender,  just feeling glad that the shop door closed on the evening of the 24th and peace game to stay for a few days.

 

 

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08/12/2019 8:59 am  

MGTOW means just that. We go our own way. We can't go our own way if we live with women, marry them and procreate with them.  Therefore, MGTOW will no longer share their lives, homes, or seed with women.  

However, more than a few MGTOW decide to continue sexual and romantic involvement with women. Such men believe that the sex is worth the work.  Many MGTOW decide otherwise and are spared all sorts of pain and trouble.  It's a personal judgment call.

Ultimately, all men who live to old age are going to be celibate anyway. It's really just a matter of choosing celibacy for yourself when you're younger or having time make that choice for you when you're older.  

P*ssy = More painful BS in life. And yes, I choose p*ssy, so I'm no saintly MGTOW monk. Though my life would probably be a whole lot better at times if I was.


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08/12/2019 9:22 am  
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P*ssy = More painful BS in life. And yes, I choose p*ssy, so I'm no saintly MGTOW monk. Though my life would probably be a whole lot better at times if I was.

Years ago, I was like that too. But "pussy" always "un-chose" me when they realized that they can't grab my life earnings and become my parasite.

That's when I let them go without hard feelings. Even back then, I often said to close friends that "equality" still has a long way to go.

Women behave "strong, empowered, self-sufficient and need no man" (to make you pussy-beg for them) and when you finally get engaged with them, a few days in, they suddenly switch and want that old-school 1950's housewife life with everything paid for by the man. They turn off the "love-light" and make plans for you to follow.

Cold shower. (Not all men get this treatment, only the Chads with money. That's when she thinks she must now cultivate her "Mr. Right" and take over his house and throw his hobbies out the door)

I often called them out on the upfront deception ("Why didn't you tell me this, I should have known? I wouldn't have bothered you...") and they were so frustrated about their trickery not having worked on me that they often left with steam coming out of their mouths and banging doors.

I read that in Australia, cunts can take a man to court over lying to her in order to make her sleep with him... That's when it gets dangerous.

In Germany, I have seen cunts rip men apart over what they project as  "lying". And I often knew who was actually lying. The cunts lie to get us in bed. They play unicorn and do love bombardment and when the men they try to deceive finally see through their shit and bail, these cunts cry rape.

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08/12/2019 9:55 am  

This is a short film by the ManKind initiative that describes the kind of life cunts always had in mind for me.

And they bailed at the first second they saw that their first attempt at becoming an authority figure was already ridiculed and "escalated" by me.

I always drove such women into a showdown and the ensuing meltdown, none of them ever "cracked" me.

(Same way I "escalated" Kitty Unboxxed's lame "authority" on another MGTOW shill site, he can stick his "rules" us his ass, just like I told WOMEN to stick their rules up their dumb and worthless asses)

"Confined - A short film about Male domestic abuse"

On topic: That's what makes you stop fapping over them...

AND LOVING EVERY SECOND OF MONK LIFE.

 

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08/12/2019 10:14 am  

The film posted above describes a single case "condition" but if you look closely at society you'll realize how many men actually live in such conditions.

Either a mother, sister or wife treating them in exactly the way shown in the film. (My 8 years older sister did that until I snapped - at age 4 to 5...)

That's explains the male suicide rate we ever so often dance tango around but society never admits the real truth behind it.

In my mind, men are still the most "torturable" creatures with an admirable capability to endure the worst of conditions someone forces them to live under.

Cunts fear men who wake up...

They know what they have done to us collectively and they expect much more as a retaliation if the bomb ever blows up... 

Like those "Hockey Mask Time" videos by RPM... That's the post-feminism future - when men stop to fap or fantasize and see women for what they really are.

Cunts and nothing more.

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08/12/2019 11:58 pm  
Posted by: @mgtowcontemplator

Is MGTOW monk/No Fap the highest ideal, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve?

No, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve is not drinking soft drinks, like Pepsi or Coke.

That's a joke.

Your dick is a part of you, using or not using your dick is part of your freedom.

MGTOW is about being free.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2br5gaN0ygA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU
That's, more or less, all about me.
I don't care, I'm ready to fight.
Until the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AmiFfP9u5c
It's not up to me to say if if I'm Drago or Rocky, but I'm gonna fighting to the end, I'll never give up...


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09/12/2019 8:58 am  
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This is a short film by the ManKind initiative that describes the kind of life cunts always had in mind for me.

And they bailed at the first second they saw that their first attempt at becoming an authority figure was already ridiculed and "escalated" by me.

I always drove such women into a showdown and the ensuing meltdown, none of them ever "cracked" me.

(Same way I "escalated" Kitty Unboxxed's lame "authority" on another MGTOW shill site, he can stick his "rules" us his ass, just like I told WOMEN to stick their rules up their dumb and worthless asses)

"Confined - A short film about Male domestic abuse"

This sh*t is for real. Tens of millions of American women are abusive and criminally violent towards their male partners and children. Often, society does little to protect children and nothing to protect their male partners.  Indeed, society seem hell-bent on turning their male partners into second class citizens.

I so hope that Western Society experiences another Reformation. A Reformation that opposes Feminism and Female Aggression would be our salvation.  I'd like to watch what happens when it gets out of control like the first Reformation did.  It would be soooo cool to watch our oppressors get what they truly deserve by getting a bitter and prolonged taste of their own poisonous medicine. 

Such a Reformation would require men to organize into groups in all major cities.  I wonder how the gendarmes would act when they realize that these men are also standing up for the gendarmes' rights. 

Such a Reformation should be for all men - left, right and center. The more, the merrier. The more, the stronger. The more = The victory. 


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09/12/2019 10:04 am  
Posted by: @grey

do it without the socially programmed NEED for another person's validations

Gold.

Posted by: @mgtowcontemplator

Is MGTOW monk/No Fap the highest ideal, the highest state of enlightenment a MGTOW can achieve?

The question is in itself so stupid, that it is actually funny to imagine a person coming up with it.

This site has been a scam from the start. I am outta here.


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09/12/2019 5:18 pm  

Unless you want to become a real monk, what is the point of No Fap? Does that mean no fapping till you die?

I have seen that I start to behave like a cuck if I don't fap for a few days.


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09/12/2019 7:21 pm  
Posted by: @morpheus

Unless you want to become a real monk, what is the point of No Fap? Does that mean no fapping till you die?

I have seen that I start to behave like a cuck if I don't fap for a few days.

My ex tried to treat me like a cuck.  I immediately and permanently threw her out of a music production that we were producing and out of our house.  Then I blocked the b*tch electronically so she wouldn't bother me again.  

Another one, a complete and total stranger, tried to do it last night. Your can read what happened in my post about defending your right to be offended.

Troubled, dysfunctional women will walk all over us if we don't stand up for ourselves. 


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10/12/2019 1:32 am  

 Good posts gentlemen! I felt like simply beering your posts was insufficient. I think this thread is worth saving in the "best of" section.

Lurkers remember, attending to a normal bodily function so it doesn't control you is only common sense. You wouldn't stand out in the snow barefoot until the pain of your toes freezing became unbearable, so why let sexual desire build up until it affects your judgement? Whether or not you need to "wank it" has no bearing upon "how MGTOW" you are. This whole "levels of MGTOW" should be "taken with a grain of salt". It reeks of an effort to divide and conquer in my opinion, or possibly to scare off men who are considering leaving the gyno plantation. Whether it's sex dolls, porn, hookers, erotic art, a vivid imagination, it just doesn't matter any  more that what brand of TP you prefer. As men, we accept that we are responsible for ourselves, so we take care of ourselves however it should best be done, in our own judgement.


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10/12/2019 6:46 am  
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Unless you want to become a real monk, what is the point of No Fap? Does that mean no fapping till you die?

I have seen that I start to behave like a cuck if I don't fap for a few days.

Fapping clears your mind and makes you think straight again.

It fools your body chemistry into perceiving that the "act" has taken place and that you now face the real-life aftermath again.

I left behind many "chances" when a woman made me hot for her and then, when I had released the pressure later on, I saw clearly the real pitfalls and nastiness I would get into if I proceeded to pursue her, the train-wreck. (Almost all of them are, or they are long taken and happily married)

Fapping makes you think straight about women and that's why it's the last thing society wants you to do. Many men would have been saved from the plantation if they had learned to use fapping as a tool to clear their minds and think objectively before a date or before that life-changing baby-trapping one night stand encounter.

I often found myself blowing huge loads over women that would be "optically attractive" and would have pleased me and my fetishes every step of the way... But after releasing a load, I could clearly see their "chainsaw" personality, their STDs, their debts, their run down things, their drug and alcoholism habit...in short: Their entire baggage induces fear of having to deal with it. The fear = natural instinct to listen to - comes after you have "unloaded" and can think straight again.

The topic of fapping is much under-discussed in the manosphere.

As a local businessman, the gold diggers used to throw themselves at me constantly. And it does make a man "spin a wheel" when some 19 year old rubs her gaping pussy on his knee and you can feel "everything she has" in your knees and legs... You can't help getting hard and thinking about it at least for the following night.

Unload it all, make sure to catch it... (can be a lot in such cases) and then the true intentions of these women surface in your mind. And you see the Herpes she has from being a slut...

There is this sign in your mind: "Oh, my God, this would end my nice life... Beware."

These women were completely estranged by my calm reactions to such forced intimacy...

Experiences like this still do serve well as fantasy material - to clear the prostate and avoid getting cancer down there - but I would never chase after thees troubled creatures in real life.

I actually did "go" with a few of these sluts but whenever I made my fences clear - insert the MGTOW mindset here - they took off.

For then it was back on the "hypergamy carousel", looking for a better deal.

They are still looking and all they will ever have is a colony of cats around them, especially if the cuck that finally made their beta-vetting procedure dies early because of her constant bitching... 20 years alone with her cats... Viva feminism.

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10/12/2019 7:22 am  
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Unless you want to become a real monk, what is the point of No Fap? Does that mean no fapping till you die?

I have seen that I start to behave like a cuck if I don't fap for a few days.

My ex tried to treat me like a cuck.  I immediately and permanently threw her out of a music production that we were producing and out of our house.  Then I blocked the b*tch electronically so she wouldn't bother me again.  

Another one, a complete and total stranger, tried to do it last night. Your can read what happened in my post about defending your right to be offended.

Troubled, dysfunctional women will walk all over us if we don't stand up for ourselves. 

They always left when they found out that I was made of Titanium.

Most men are raised to be hard on the outside but soft on the inside. They cave when things get nasty. Women laugh about his hard shell, penetrate it and squash him like an egg.

Growing up in cunt hell made me become soft on the outside, so life is easier if you don't cause "bad boy havoc" wherever you go - I also call it my "chameleon" style that I learned from the cunts to better manage them.

But I became hard on the inside, in school 30 NPC monkeys incited by a nasty cunt teacher to beat me up... And after a while it wasn't 30 against one but rather one waging psycho war against 30 of these puppets. (When you lose respect for most humans and no longer see them as role models, BTW) Then they had to remove me from that school with illegal trickery, in spite of my still good grades. (1976, 3rd grade)

But because of me being a chameleon in dealing with women, the cunts I met always thought that training me like a dog and dominating me would be easy... Well it was good for them that they walked. I would have broken them to pieces. Skull-fucked their empty heads and left them with nightmares (and cat pics). (Still works)

Customer cunts could always give me orders, as long as they paid and stayed away from insults and blackmail.

I often freaked out so terribly - but smart - or I gave them arguments that even a Borderline cunt loses -  so heavy that it made the talk of the town...

And it kept other cunts from exploiting me. Like letting me fix all of her shit and then wanting to pay with the threat of a false accusation... They knew it would be the end of their "peaceful" and "careless" lives and that I will not do one single day in the big house over what happens on their premises. They knew - and told each other - to leave me alone and that any foul tricks will be costly. (They all had shit that could be sabotaged and fucked with)

That kept my unpaid invoices below 0.5 percent over the years.

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