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01/03/2019 4:53 pm  

The British Empire vs the Thirteen Colonies located in North America, seemed like such an easy objective to achieve.  No standing continental army, only states militia, part-time citizen-soldiers available.  Initial troop strengths: Greater than 32,000 professional British soldiers vs. Less than 20,000 untrained citizen-soldiers.

The British navy was the largest and strongest in the world, the initial Thirteen Colonies navy consisted of two captured British sloops and a schooner "Hannah" provided by George Washington.

Guess the odds-makers in Italy were not asked to provide the numbers on this one.

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01/03/2019 7:01 pm  

I think that you should go back and check your facts again Greg.

With all due respect, we didn't have 32.000 soldiers. There were 4 of us. It was a small family on camping holiday from Kent with their dog, Alan.

They were attacked one morning in the early hours, whilst still asleep, by a force of 2 million brave souls. Holding them back for 14 hours armed only with 2 deckchairs, a walking stick and a camping stove, the 'Smith' family eventually tired and sadly lost their battle. 

History is written by the victors.

But, Alan knows...that's why you murdered him too.

 

I'll leave it to the other members to decide who's history seems the more credible. I'm confident that I have the full trust of the entire forum. 

 

 


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01/03/2019 7:44 pm  

Guerrilla warfare is highly effective when the opposing force is spread thinly and a long way from re-supply.

Just ask the Afghans.


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01/03/2019 8:14 pm  
Posted by: Don Keyote

I think that you should go back and check your facts again Greg.

With all due respect, we didn't have 32.000 soldiers. There were 4 of us. It was a small family on camping holiday from Kent with their dog, Alan.

They were attacked one morning in the early hours, whilst still asleep, by a force of 2 million brave souls. Holding them back for 14 hours armed only with 2 deckchairs, a walking stick and a camping stove, the 'Smith' family eventually tired and sadly lost their battle. 

History is written by the victors.

But, Alan knows...that's why you murdered him too.

 

I'll leave it to the other members to decide who's history seems the more credible. I'm confident that I have the full trust of the entire forum. 

 

 

Donkey, you forgot one fact, they were attacked from the rear and at night! 

As you Brits would say, that's hardly cricket! It was big no fairzees! 


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01/03/2019 8:43 pm  

Honda makes an excellent point. The revolutionary war was very much an urban vs rural war.  Lexington and Concord was a American win because the British were out in the sticks/rural. Bunker Hill was a loss for the Americans because they chose to openly attack a city. The battles in Quebec in 1775 were again American victories because the British again ventured into the sticks. Although the Americans somehow held on to Charleston the British were on the other hand VERY successful the following year in New Jersey and New York (urban centers). The American victories at Trenton and Saratoga were largely due to the use of surprise and supply problems for the British.  Now one of the exceptions to the rule here is the American re-capture of Philadelphia. The northern campaign became a stalemate at that point. The Americans controlled the countryside and the British the cities.  The Ameican victories at Kings Mountain and the cowpens sealed the deal in the south. Notice the last battle of the war--the siege of Yorktown; the rural folks besieging a city. Even with the overwhelming forces the British had they could not prevail once the city was cut off. 

This should be our strategy for the coming civil war. It will again be rural against urban and the path to victory will be cutting off the cities from food, water and power. 


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02/03/2019 3:37 am  

Can I have a little warning so I can get out of the city?


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02/03/2019 2:26 pm  
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Can I have a little warning so I can get out of the city?

Try replacing "can I have" with "fuck you, I'm taking" and you'll get what you need! Works for me!

You'll hear allot of "can he do that?", by then it's too late! Being a bottom feeder tends to develop aggressive strategies! 

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03/03/2019 9:27 pm  
Posted by: Don Keyote

I think that you should go back and check your facts again Greg.

With all due respect, we didn't have 32.000 soldiers. There were 4 of us. It was a small family on camping holiday from Kent with their dog, Alan.

They were attacked one morning in the early hours, whilst still asleep, by a force of 2 million brave souls. Holding them back for 14 hours armed only with 2 deckchairs, a walking stick and a camping stove, the 'Smith' family eventually tired and sadly lost their battle. 

History is written by the victors.

But, Alan knows...that's why you murdered him too.

 

I'll leave it to the other members to decide who's history seems the more credible. I'm confident that I have the full trust of the entire forum. 

 

 

Don,

You blokes always go by "Smythe" "Smythe-Huntington-Richardson" "Smythe-Baron of this-Dude of that" and such, Smith is an "Merican" name don't you know.  Sounds like you might want to see if the had a few extra servants that were no on any manifest, or three. 🤔 😀   A division or six might be a more accurate  number.

Your depiction of the battle narrative is spot on, though there is no mention of "Rum Beverages" inspiring the morale of troops.  Seems that there should be Rum or Tea or some such "Yuns" drink mentioned.  Grog, Grog would be good as well!

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03/03/2019 9:28 pm  
Posted by: Greg Honda

Guerrilla warfare is highly effective when the opposing force is spread thinly and a long way from re-supply.

Just ask the Afghans.

Absolutely Honda.  When you have to pack for every occasion and plan for any eventuality, your margin for error is razon thin ... at best.

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03/03/2019 9:31 pm  
Posted by: The Evil Genius

 

This should be our strategy for the coming civil war. It will again be rural against urban and the path to victory will be cutting off the cities from food, water and power. 

Too easy to do and much easier to sustain once started.  Great synopsis T.E.G.

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03/03/2019 9:32 pm  
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Can I have a little warning so I can get out of the city?

May,  Now might be a good time to plan another move ... just saying!  You do have options however, North or S.E. are familiar territory for you and you have know contacts in both areas.  Not a bad foundation to build upon

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03/03/2019 9:34 pm  
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Posted by: may72020

Can I have a little warning so I can get out of the city?

Try replacing "can I have" with "fuck you, I'm taking" and you'll get what you need! Works for me!

You'll hear allot of "can he do that?", by then it's too late! Being a bottom feeder tends to develop aggressive strategies! 

The BOTTOM FEEDER - ...Lost Surfboards by Mayhem

You are the apex predator in your area Tower... Let someone try and maintain a presence in your back yard.... bad booga for sure.

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03/03/2019 9:35 pm  
Posted by: may72020

Can I have a little warning so I can get out of the city?

Consider yourself warned.


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13/03/2019 7:56 pm  

Having a destination to arrive at is more important than knowing when to leave.  When it becomes obvious, the mass of people leaving urban locations for anywhere else will ensure that a prepared man will be able to exit along with them.  

Else you could potentially be driving the streets in a new car each and every day.

 

A properly prepared and sited "Tiny House" can get you by initially.

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