Service and Gratitude  

 

GregBO
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25/10/2018 3:12 pm  

Service:  The action of helping or doing work for someone.

Military service in a number of nations is voluntary.  Nations that have standing military forces (armies) are allowed  the ability to better support national interests and objectives, as well as international commitments and goals. People, civilian and military alike, achieve these goals and objectives, not objects or resources.  Regardless of the ultimate outcomes of these “strategic visions”, the opportunity was presented as a result of the efforts of the few who supported the many, and the nation as a whole.

From the Greeks to the Janissaries and through the New Model Army of Oliver Cromwell, men have been volunteering  to serve to support these opportunities, fully conscious of the potential personal costs to themselves and their peers.

Some families have a strong tradition of military service. Other families have a strong tradition of supporting, or defending, and protecting those members of society who choose to serve. Others have the freedom to live a life that does not include actively supporting either the military, or those national positions the military contributes to, or enforces.

Nations are finally learning to separate war, and the associated political policies, from the warriors who are performing those actions necessary to fulfill these policy objectives.  Military members continue to put themselves in harms way to defend freedom, liberty and ability for the remainder of the nation to live in relative peace. This service comes with many sacrifices and harsh payments, the ultimate of which is the potential loss of life.

Gratitude: The quality of being thankful; readiness to show appreciation for and to return kindness.

Military members thank their fellow service members for the commitment and services performed by their being in uniform.  

They thank those fallen comrades, and others who were injured, from answering the call to duty.  

They thank those who served and sacrificed in the past, thereby achieving a higher level of military professionalism and competence for all who followed in their footsteps.

They thank everyone who wanted to join the fight, but were not permitted for reasons known and unknown.

They thank those who contributed by staying home and working in occupations that supported both the military, and the nation that it supported.

They thank those who take a moment to publicly thank military members for their service.  

Five simple words, “Thank you for your service” often mean more than all the medals received or patriotic words spoken during formal ceremonies.

 

Thank you to everyone who either fits one of the above categories, has a family member who did, or currently does.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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25/10/2018 4:22 pm  

thank you Gregbo.

to serve is a noble sacrifice.

it's not done for the money,

it is done because it's the right thing to do.

God bless all our military personal and all who serve at home for the public.

we get more "fuck you's " than "thank you's".

people take for granted safe clean streets.

the invisible men behind the scenes keeping them safe from military to the P.D. all deserve recognition.

 

men, we are on our own. the best you can hope for is good company along the way. the good company is here.


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25/10/2018 5:53 pm  
Posted by: Hitman

thank you Gregbo.

to serve is a noble sacrifice.

it's not done for the money,

it is done because it's the right thing to do.

God bless all our military personal and all who serve at home for the public.

we get more "fuck you's " than "thank you's".

people take for granted safe clean streets.

the invisible men behind the scenes keeping them safe from military to the P.D. all deserve recognition.

 

Absolutely Hitman. Thanks for all that you and your peers do as well.

Americans never realize how safe they are, even when visiting foreign nations.  Their safety is no small degree stems from the fact that the United States of America will go in after their own. Maybe not immediately, maybe not in the most effective manner, however, they are aware and have the capability to project force as needed.

Many other nations lack the will, basic capabilities or political leadership/resolve to push as needed.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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Uly The Cunning
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25/10/2018 6:07 pm  

The freedom that we have is fragile and takes constant reminders to those who would take it from us. The allies of the United States also acquires a blanket of protection as well. Without this unique and powerful group that has been the best of humanity, the world would still be in chaos of nations dominating nations and constant conquering of one another. Despite the wars as we know them today, they are nothing in the fashion that it was in the past. Entire cultures would be wiped out to make room of another expanding, showing dominance. We face a cultural attack in many nations today, but the vigilant and strong stand ready, awaiting orders to fight back. The closest comparison to the Unites States military is the Spartans. An amazing force that defeats any odds that it faces. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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25/10/2018 6:29 pm  
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What the USA does is the classic "£50 to watch your car mister" and if you don't pay...

 

You miss the point. If what you are saying is true, then all nations under the protection of the United States military would have fallen already. We have spent the money to defend these nations, not the other way around. If you have watched the current events, you would see that only now have we said that the bill now has to be paid by those nations, for the first time in US history. We have always provided the money for that defense and even gave money to other nations to build their own defense. Your statement is not only false, but comes off as if you are entitled to a defense from another nation. If you feel you are owed that defense, than you should live within that nation's borders. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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25/10/2018 7:00 pm  
Posted by: Uly The Cunning

The freedom that we have is fragile and takes constant reminders to those who would take it from us. The allies of the United States also acquires a blanket of protection as well. 

Agreed Uly and while having a standing military is seen as a commitment both locally and abroad, it is one that is indeed fading as internal domestic issues blind leadership, and citizens, to the dangers you describe.  

The values, ethics and morals most often portrayed by U.S. citizens are anathema to those military members have to learn, embrace and espouse to become effective warriors.

The United States and allies were previously viewed as the 'force's of good' that protected others without such resources. Were the reasons always beneficent and just, no, but the flip side was often being faced with actions that often bordered on evil.

Thus it truly does fall upon a small, select groups of individuals who believe and support the ideal that must be fought for.  Internally and externally.

​"What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." -Albert Pike

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland


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Uly The Cunning
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25/10/2018 7:09 pm  

No, I mean if we based our protection on getting paid, then we would have pulled our defense. Don't look for conspiracy in my words, trying to change their representation. 

You speak of the 2 percent as if that is a lot, when the US government has been paying far more. When the UK pays the same as the US, then you can talk about paying fair shares. As for the other concept you are baiting, this is just sideways talk and complete nonsense. 

When you speak of the concept for petro, you are also talking with ignorance. If this was true, we would have made money from the Iraq war. The exact opposite has happened. We repaired the oil lines and did not take the oil. We did not take under the table deals in return either. You are basically speaking something you heard without evidence. 

I understood your analogy. I am just calling it out as more accusation without evidence, just to fit an idea that you have decided to believe. You would rather believe conspiracy over the facts.

The US has rebuilt many nations. Your ignorance of that with a statement that we wipe out nations unless certain response to the nation is more ignorance.

I am being brutally honest about this because I don't stand for misinformation. You have to get past your desire to have a conspiracy to believe in. The hatred to the United States military that you have is evident, and you are letting it cloud your judgment. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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Uly The Cunning
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25/10/2018 7:27 pm  

Once again, you are still imposing your conspiracy over facts. You need to get facts before you start attempting a rebuttal. You shrug off facts as non-consequential then try to focus vaguely to get me to feed the narrative so you can nitpick the argument. This will not work on me. This is the liberal way of arguing and I am surprised that you decided to go with that. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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25/10/2018 7:48 pm  

What an odd commentary from Itsalbs. He is usually pretty knowledgeable about history but it seems that he has forgotten the fact Americans crossed the ocean, left their families and died to help save his homeland...twice in fact. And now the people we saved (twice) lack the willingness to save themselves and it would seem our sacrifice was for nothing. 


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25/10/2018 7:59 pm  
Posted by: Uly The Cunning

 The closest comparison to the Unites States military is the Spartans. An amazing force that defeats any odds that it faces. 

That's because Spartans place the value of freedom and sovereignty above life itself! 

Trust me, I'm a Spartan! I'm on the civil side of war, where laws are used against us with a deadlier effect than bullets! 

Welcome to the war gentlemen, we're not all garbed in military clothing, many of us are civilian. 

It's why we formed a militia to oppose enemies both foreign and domestic. 

enemy (ĕnˈə-mē)

"One who feels hatred toward, intends injury to, or opposes the interests of another; a foe."

Pick your enemy, they're all around us, mixed in, hidden, waiting to strike! 😉 

 

 

 

 


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25/10/2018 11:30 pm  

Those who lined up as my enemies were domestic not foreign. I am now considered the foreigner in my own society.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at the idiots who misunderstand me! Kind mockery toward the well-intentioned and unfettered cruelty toward all would-be prison guards of my creative possibilities. In this way I learn to revel as much in misunderstanding as in understanding and take pleasure in worthy opponents. Making language fluid, flowing like a river, yet precise and pointed as a dirk, contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful verbal dance—a linguistic martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.


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03/11/2018 6:05 pm  

We shall have liberty until he last Man willing to die for it has had his spiritual FIRE  extinguished !!!!!

At that moment there will be nothing worth fighting and dying for, left on earth, and those remaining will be deserving of their fate. 

They will be standing there with fire extinguishers handy and keenly aware of how useless a fire extinguisher is against what is coming..

L&R

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at the idiots who misunderstand me! Kind mockery toward the well-intentioned and unfettered cruelty toward all would-be prison guards of my creative possibilities. In this way I learn to revel as much in misunderstanding as in understanding and take pleasure in worthy opponents. Making language fluid, flowing like a river, yet precise and pointed as a dirk, contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful verbal dance—a linguistic martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.


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