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Travis3000
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31/08/2019 6:10 pm  

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-women-workplace-study-harassment-harvard-metoo

 

I've copied and pasted the article below.  The writing in said article is piss poor to say the least.  In fact I'm surprised that this got past an editor, any editor.  But alas, standards are moving targets sometimes.

It looks like Mike Pence is quite the trendsetter. The US vice-president famously refuses to have dinner alone with any woman who isn’t his wife – and now working men across corporate America appear to be following his lead.

A new study, due to be published in the journal Organizational Dynamics, has found that, following the #MeToo movement, men are significantly more reluctant to interact with their female colleagues. A few highlights from the research include:

27% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female co-workers. Yep, that’s right, almost a third of men are terrified to be alone in a room with a woman.

21% of men said they would be reluctant to hire women for a job that would require close interaction (such as business travel).

19% of men would be reluctant to hire an attractive woman.

The data above was collected in early 2019 from workers across a wide range of industries. Researchers had asked the same questions (albeit to different people and with more of a focus on future expectations) in early 2018, just as #MeToo was in full swing, and depressingly, things appear to have got worse. In 2018, for example, 15% of men said they would be more reluctant to hire women for jobs that require close interpersonal interactions with women, compared to 21% in 2019.

It’s not just men who are afraid of women, by the way. Women also appear to be increasingly wary of hiring women. The 2018 survey results found that more than 10% of men and women said they expected to be less willing than before to hire attractive women. (Note: the 2019 results for women are not yet public.) Internalized misogyny really is a bitch.

There’s been a lot of talk about “grey areas” in #MeToo. All this harassment business is very difficult for men, we’re told, because nobody even knows what sexual harassment is any more! Men are afraid to even shake a woman’s hand in case she thinks it’s harassment! Easier to just avoid contact altogether! What’s really interesting about this study, however, is that it thoroughly debunks the argument that men are confused about what constitutes unacceptable behavior. The very first thing researchers did was look at 19 behaviours (emailing sexual jokes to a subordinate, for example) and get people to classify it as harassment or not. Surprise, surprise, both genders basically agreed on what harassment entails.

“Most men know what sexual harassment is, and most women know what it is,” Leanne Atwater, a professor at the University of Houston and one of the study’s authors, told the Harvard Business Review. “The idea that men don’t know their behavior is bad and that women are making a mountain out of a molehill is largely untrue. If anything, women are more lenient in defining harassment.”

So there you go: most men are perfectly aware of the difference between a friendly hug and a creepy hug. They are perfectly aware of what constitutes harassment and what doesn’t. Which makes you wonder why so many men are afraid to interact with women at work?

The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren’t so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They’re angry that they’ve been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.

It’s worth noting, I think, that the Harvard Business Review article previewing the study’s 2019 results is headlined The #MeToo Backlash. You see that phrase a lot and that framing subtly implies that #MeToo went too far, that a backlash is only natural. It’s yet another form of victim-blaming; another way to quietly put women back in their place.

 

 

The language in this article is leading and biased.  for example:

•"27% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female co-workers. Yep, that’s right, almost a third of men are terrified to be alone in a room with a woman."

Notice it says "terrified." Not "reluctant," "hesitant," or any thing else.  No, we get an extreme adjective that paints a certain group of men as having a overly emotional fear response.  Does that sound plausible? Compare that with what the article containing the original study said, "27% said they avoided one-on-one meetings with female colleagues."

So the author intentionally changed the language there, did you catch that?

 

She goes further, "It’s not just men who are afraid of women..."

Afraid of women, really? How about people just don't want to take an unnecessary risk.  Just more damning language from the author.

 

"All this harassment business is very difficult for men, we’re told, because nobody even knows what sexual harassment is any more!"  No, what's difficult is that women can DEFINE harassments however they want.  Harassments, in part, is made up of how someone feels.  If someone feels harrased, ect.  Then they must be taken seriously, at least that's what the MeToo deal is all about, but the author seems to have forgotten about that.

 

Also the article refrences a study.  You can't get a link to find out where to read the study, the methodologies, the questions asked, nothing.  You just have to take their words for it.  And still, it doesn't address the fact that harrasment is frequently in the eye of the beholder.

Strait from the EEOC website:

Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitute sexual harassment when this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance, or creates an intimidating, hostile, or offensive work environment.

While the majority of that definition is clear, what isn't as clear is interpretation.  For example, if my computer crashes and I say the word "Fuck!" out of frustration, is that harassment? According to that definition it is.  The word "fuck" has a clear definition and is frequently considered offensive and hostile. These are the shades of grey that the article above want's to gloss over, the author clearly wants to create a black and white construct in order to vilify men and paint women as victims.

 

And after several more lines of leading language and one sided and incomplete information we get the main point:

 

...The answer to that question, perhaps, is that a lot of men aren’t so much afraid of being accused of anything as they are they are angry that #MeToo ever happened. They’re angry that they’ve been made to think about their behavior, made to interrogate power dynamics they always took for granted, and they are punishing women for it by refusing to interact with them.

 

There you go guys.  You are angry that women are interrupting your power dynamic.  You are harrasers and want to stay that way, and you are punishing these poor, poor women for pointing out how shitty you've been!

 

"It’s worth noting, I think, that the Harvard Business Review article previewing the study’s 2019 results is headlined The #MeToo Backlash. You see that phrase a lot and that framing subtly implies that #MeToo went too far, that a backlash is only natural. It’s yet another form of victim-blaming; another way to quietly put women back in their place."

 

More of the same, men are oppressing women and trying to hold them down.  It's articles like this that only reinforce the reasons to stay away.


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31/08/2019 7:45 pm  

#MeToo is the high watermark of feminist oppression in the USA.  #MeToo is a giant witch hunt that threatens all men from low-lives and decent human beings.  Before he passed away, George H Bush, a man known for his devotion to his wife and traditional values, was accused of sexual harassment by some histrionic b*tch. A rational mind must question how a man with such positive qualities who is also in his 90s and confined to a wheelchair could possibly "harass" a woman.  Maybe he said, "Sweetheart, could you please push my wheelchair out of the sunlight? Great-grandpa can't handle direct sun like he used to."

*MeToo is a symptom of a sick society that encourages certain population groups to view themselves as victims instead of responsible human beings. It also encourages a paradigm of role reversal and bullying. E.g. -  An Attention Whore claims that she was sexually harassed or abused by a male bully who is in reality an innocent man.  She destroys his reputation and quite possibly his life. She is pretending to be a victim. In reality, she is a bully and the innocent man is her victim. 

Yes, some women have experienced egregious forms of sexual harassment and mistreatment at the hands of a small number of men. But it is nowhere near the outlandish claims of histrionic and bigoted feminists hell bent on bullying us into silence.

Our oppressors are no longer at the gates.  They are taking over and seek to destroy us. Let us be silent no more.  Our cause is just and honorable. Oppose those who oppress us and threaten our lives. Push back. Fight back. 


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31/08/2019 8:07 pm  

Here is the "competition" article from the Daily Fail on the same subject.

I got caught up reading the comments and  seeing that the MGTOW mindset is all over. Even if men don't even know it has a name.

The like to dislike ratio among the comments is staggering

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7408599/Men-avoid-women-work-sign-punished-MeToo.html

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31/08/2019 8:14 pm  

Yes. Many men who have never heard of Mgtow are gtow.  Their need for safety and prosperity eclipses any desire for love, long term relationships, or marriage.  Fear of pain and loss can make people risk-averse and pragmatic.  


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31/08/2019 8:28 pm  
Posted by: @gargamel

Here is the "competition" article from the Daily Fail on the same subject.

I got caught up reading the comments and  seeing that the MGTOW mindset is all over. Even if men don't even know it has a name.

The like to dislike ratio among the comments is staggering

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7408599/Men-avoid-women-work-sign-punished-MeToo.html

Interesting.  The comments of the Daily Mail are predominantly saying that the MeToo stuff is complete shit.  All it takes in an accusation these days.  All men are presumed guilty and women are presumed to be telling the truth.  Sounds legit right?


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31/08/2019 8:38 pm  

Presumption of guilt and trial by sensationalistic press are hallmarks of the #MeToo movement. Judgment is final upon accusation with little or no opportunity for the defendant to protect and defend himself in the court of public media. Stalin and Hitler would have loved a system like that.


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31/08/2019 10:31 pm  

This is great news. More evidence that “The Great World Uncunting”  is in affect. Perhaps one day, all men will be uncunted. Men free from the Gynocentric Cuntalia of planet Earth.

 

 

 

#Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. (Revelation 3:3)


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01/09/2019 12:27 am  
Posted by: @redpillbible

uncunted.

Stealthy and me, we forgot to acquire brand name copyright protection of that word and it's meaning.

After all, you could turn it into a brand name. Uncunting this, Uncunting that....

LOL.

Anything that gets back at the cunts is good to go and under Public License forever.

"The Great Worldwide Uncunting of 2018..." I think I once had that in my Kitty Site signature. The female owners of the site must have LOVED it.

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01/09/2019 12:29 am  
Posted by: @redpillbible

Gynocentric Cuntalia of planet Earth.

Epic wording!

"Uncunting from the Cuntalia of the Cuntocracy"

 

No thread on #metoo without a cat pic dedicated to the lonely old feminist hags:

The cunts' future is definitely feline.

2018 was the year of the cat.

Cats replacing us men in the urine scented households of feminist cunts.

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01/09/2019 12:46 am  

BTW, while we are on the subject of #metoo,

let me repost the "#metoo-Handbook" in full text.

A 2017/2018 book written by an author called "Angela Confidential" with the name:

"DAMN - How To Destroy A Man Now".

I still wonder why Amazon actually distributed this illegal writing. Illegal since it is incentivizing an illegal act. And it even explains how an illegal act of reputation murder is carried out in detail. Taking limitless damages into account that could hit the potential victim.  

Would be nice to get a copyright claim filed by the author, so we could file a court case in return.

Since the book is factually full of illegal content, we men make use of the right to protect ourselves by making it accessible to everyone of us who could become a victim of such a deliberate act of reputation murder.

Every man MUST read that book.

20 MB, anonymous download - after entering a number captcha:

http://www.filedropper.com/damnfull

If the link expires in a few weeks, I will (aperiodically) return here and add the new link at the end of the thread.

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01/09/2019 1:12 am  

The doorstep of a female dominated housing area ghetto, in the year 2021

In the background, a sign saying: "No men allowed on the premises".

Well we wouldn't want to trespass anyway.

Yuck!

They gave us #metoo, we gave them cats to grow old with. 27 for each lonely cunt.

And we bought cat supply stocks...

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01/09/2019 1:39 am  

Here, on the "Guardian" website you can sign up for the "This Week in Patriarchy" newsletter.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2019/aug/31/all-the-single-ladies-have-been-an-economic-force-for-a-long-time-marketers-are-just-noticing

LOL.

I just read a few paragraphs of this hilarious bullshit and I predict the future crash of marriage- and birth rates to be much steeper than they expect.

The internet accelerates this process more than they think, if they think at all.

Men are now waking up to their shit on a global scale and even though they continue to ban MGTOW content everywhere, the number of active YouTube channels is still higher than it ever was.

The cunts are fighting a losing battle.

Once we men flick the switch, the power goes out and feminism goes right along with it (Quoted from "R P M" YouTube channel)

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01/09/2019 5:17 pm  
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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/aug/29/men-women-workplace-study-harassment-harvard-metoo

 

I've copied and pasted the article below.  The writing in said article is piss poor to say the least.  In fact I'm surprised that this got past an editor, any editor.  But alas, standards are moving targets sometimes.

 

Hmmm.  So women are being punished for #MeTool?  I thought that #MeTool was a program to punish men. Sort of like how the Holocaust was used to punish Jews for trying to "take over" and for refusing to eat pork.  Such an ancient and proud people who can be so careful with their diets.  Western men should follow their lead and refuse to eat the feminist sh*t that we're being force-fed on a daily basis. Fight Back.


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01/09/2019 6:56 pm  
Posted by: @gargamel

I just read a few paragraphs of this hilarious bullshit and I predict the future crash of marriage- and birth rates to be much steeper than they expect.

The internet accelerates this process more than they think, if they think at all.

Men are now waking up to their shit on a global scale and even though they continue to ban MGTOW content everywhere, the number of active YouTube channels is still higher than it ever was.

The cunts are fighting a losing battle.

Once we men flick the switch, the power goes out and feminism goes right along with it (Quoted from "R P M" YouTube channel)

Birth rates are already crashing the the USA.  People are having far less sex than they used to.  Some of the major reasons include:  #MeTool, Fashionable Misandry & Feminism, and Female Narcissism.  Many Western woman have evolved into narcissistic, predatory creatures. Such individuals are incapable of manifesting even a semblance of a healthy relationship without sabotaging it.  Simply put, far too many women are emotionally incapable of maintaining a romantic liaison long enough to make a baby. Of course, some will eventually get around to having babies.  Pity the poor children born to such troubled and troublesome women.  Talk about being tossed under the bus right after popping out of the womb!

Ultimately, I believe that technology will help to raise and right this sinking ship.  Consider this - In 1969, porn was illegal in many places.  Where it was available, it was either PG rated (Playboy Magazine) or of exceedingly low quality.  By 1999, it was widely available online at low cost.  In 2019, the quality is much higher.  New technologies offer 3d audio-visual point of view immersion through VR glasses.  While I haven't tried this, it sounds like technology is moving forward and will broaden this experience on a sensory perspective.  Already, technology exists to beam both images and sound directly into the human brain. I used to work for a company that was developing this technology. 

What could the future hold?  Kinesthetic immersion.  Simply put, a man plugs into a device and finds himself in bed with the super hottie of his choice who is ready, willing, and eager to fulfill his desires.  This VR experience would feel every bit as real as if it was happening in real life.  Does he know a real-life hottie who is utterly and forever beyond his reach? "Deepfake" technology already exists to turn her into the porn star of his dreams.  He would merely need to feed a pic of her into his device and it does the rest.  Why bother pursuing a THOT when all you need is her pic to get her into bed?

There are some that might doubt that this could happen.  Consider this - In 1919, downloading music consisted of making a phone call where one could listen to a single grainy pre-recorded piece of music.  There was only one song and it was stored on a machine that weighed more than 10 cars and could only moved by train. In 2019, one can download hundreds of thousands of high fidelity songs, often for free.

Consider the possible outcomes when this sort of kinesthetic immersion technology becomes widely available.  Why would men want to fraternize with a high risk and pathologically narcissistic population group when a safer and low risk alternative is readily available?  Especially if the alternative offers equally (if not better) sexual experiences.

The implications of this hypothetical paradigm are profound. Envision this - In a single generation, a toxic, multi-million year monopoly would come to an abrupt end. This would occur in a time when it has become widely known that this monopoly has been used as a dirty weapon that has brought harm and ruin to countless decent men.  Men would simply walk away from romantic relationships with women in favor of a safer and more pleasant alternative. 

The implications for Western women are as profound as they are unpleasant. They face the prospect of not ever having husbands and children.  They also face the unpleasant prospect of not having sex with men. Ever. These issues might be just the things that Western women need to overcome. This paradigm would place immense pressure on them to clean up their acts and become better human beings. Troubled women would need to seek counseling and therapy.  Overweight and slovenly women would have to cut out the junk food, spend time in the gym, and work on their appearance. 

Consider this hypothetical outcome after two generations of widely available kinesthetic immersion technology:  The defeat of hateful feminism. Far fewer troubled women. Far fewer land whales and slovenly women.  Such individuals would have died out like dinosaurs and would be replaced by attractive women of good character.  Truly, this would be a golden age for Western women.

People are gonna party like it's 2099!  Yes, we won't live to see it. Slaves born in 1864 didn't live to see a black man in the White House.  We may find some small amount of comfort in knowing that our oppressors will eventually be overcome.  Either by a new technology or by our resolute will to live free and dignified lives.

This is a helluva good post. I'm going to turn it into a topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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01/09/2019 8:01 pm  

I say it is clear proof of the female inability to understand consequences to their actions.

When they make a choice and the solution fails, it is always someone elses fault.

If I were to stand on a street corner and start yelling "Idolize me, I'm better than you" how many friends do you think I would make?

My advice to females:  sometimes it is better to look stupid than to open your mouth and prove it.

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01/09/2019 8:29 pm  
Posted by: @old-buck

I say it is clear proof of the female inability to understand consequences to their actions.

When they make a choice and the solution fails, it is always someone elses fault.

If I were to stand on a street corner and start yelling "Idolize me, I'm better than you" how many friends do you think I would make?

My advice to females:  sometimes it is better to look stupid than to open your mouth and prove it.

Inability to understand consequences, projection of blame, and grandiose self-obsession are the hallmark of several nasty personality disorders.  More than half of all women in America are afflicted with these disorders.  This plague upon our women arises from both our toxic culture and the toxic families that these troubled women were born into.  Mgtow and MRAs are defensive paradigms that are spontaneously arising out of our common psyche to combat this issue. 


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02/09/2019 12:12 am  
Posted by: @warrior-angel

This is a helluva good post. I'm going to turn it into a topic.

It definitely is!

Excellent analysis.

Back on the Honey Pot Kitty Site (aka MGTOW.com) I already wrote plenty of posts like that and that's why these threads always died a sudden death by forum sliding.

I always went "WTF?" when these posts received no further attention and the thread suddenly dropped to page 3 or lower - within hours or even minutes.

The feminists who run the site didn't like to read the truth.

It is the truth. Women need to clean up their act to be in the game of tomorrow.

Sex robots will become highly developed mechanical sex tools that can run custom firmware and custom code like teachable CNC manufacturing robots. Or a fuzzy logic system that analyzes a man's preferred way of "doing it" and tries to learn "along the way"... (Multiple axis control systems and auto-cleaning...)

So it does what a man likes and the way he likes it. This is going to beat BY FAR the dead fish "engagement" level and "low-ambition effort" most women practice in bed. And will smell a lot better than the women who were not taught by their single mothers how to clean themselves properly.

 

On a side note: Since the high-speed cock carousel began to turn - after the introduction of smartphones and the internet, most women have become factually unfuckable - unless the man expects to live with incurable STD's just for the sake of that tiny bit of pleasure. 

In the future it looks like men who simply want to live healthy MUST live celibate or have a clean robot that does not cause infections.

Sydney MGTOW presents the sad truth in his unbeatable humoristic way:

Alternative video link:

https://archive.org/details/Sydney_MGTOW_Video_Archive_Volume_3_of_3/THOTs+Cause+STD+Outbreak.+Must+Watch!!.mp4

Women do not only get punished for #metoo but also for riding the STD contraction carousel.

Men start to stay away even without #metoo.

Most STD's are worse than a false accusation. They stay with you for life and can kill you.

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02/09/2019 12:41 am  

The truth is that females are facing consequences of their actions and they don't like it. They rampantly lie and make up stories of abuse, playing victim, and it is not getting them anything in return. Men no longer believe females, and what's more, no longer trust them. Let the female tears and sob stories flow, as they fall on deaf ears. They are nothing more than a child throwing a tantrum, saying give me what I want and give it now. Ignore them and they will eventually learn that their methods do not return rewards. 

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
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02/09/2019 2:27 am  
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females

fefails

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02/09/2019 3:38 pm  

Daffy-nitions for the lurking unicorn in the room...

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES

 

Unintended consequences are situations where an action results in a potential outcome that is not what was initially intended. The unintended results may be foreseen or unforeseen, but they should be the logical results of the action. 

  • Positive unexpected outcomes or benefits
  • Potential sources of problems and a corresponding reduction in quality
  • Negative or perverse effects, which are the opposite result of what is intended

 

 

 

 

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