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r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire, just like all legacy social media.  

 

TVOR
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20/01/2020 4:32 pm  

r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire, just like all legacy social media.

This is what I posted, and wouldn't you know, was banned from the sub reddit about 90 seconds later.

It's good to have places like this, for when places like r/MGTOW pull shit like this in which I posted in r/MGTOW that was instantly moderated, and removed prior to being posted;

My Take. Censoring posts here via removal with no communication is not going to protect the sub.....

So I have now had multiple posts removed/moderated etc, within the last 30 days. This seems to be a general theme here on this sub of late sadly.

The first time this happened I reached out to every moderator (many hours apart after no response was received by each individual mod) of r/MGTOW via DM respectively to see why the post was removed, and wouldn't you know, not a single response from any one of them, at all.

To me this is pretty telling. Not only is no one willing to have a conversation about banning content, (Very much like our overlords at YouTube, Twitter, FB etc. soon to be referred to as "Legacy Social Media", or LSM for short), but I assume that there is some protectionist nature to removing content, as though there is an idea that removing this "offensive" content is going to prevent removal of the sub from the nasty reddit overlords, here's a hint from an experienced YouTube content creator who has seen many of his fellow MGTOW content creators go down over the last 2 years in the same vein, it wont.

I am a content creator myself, I get comments all the time, much like here, some of which I have had to remove an obvious troll. The difference is, at a minimum, I am willing to have a conversation about said removal of post.

I understand this place has helped a lot of men wake up to the reality of the world, and has saved many a mans life. I have helped do the same through forums like goingyourownway.com which is advertised here and has been around for almost 6 years, I helped build that site as a mod from the ground up ( I have been around as a MGTOW since the phrase was coined, yup, im that old to this game). Or the new independentman.org, I have promoted that site in my YT videos as well to help it grow and to help men.

The difference between those fora and here, there are clear rules, clear communication, and the freedom to express what you want within reason (and succinct communication of said reason). I suggest more men visit and sign up to fora like these so that they can continue to share with like minded men.

If I get banned from this sub, so be it, it wouldn't surprise me these days, and in that vein, this would pretty much be like all of the other subreddits that many here laugh at for being insta banned for having anything to do with this sub, funny how that works, things really do come full circle dont they?

I will lurk, and read stories if im not banned, but I can no longer in good conscience post any content here (not that I was a prolific poster anyways), I dont do well with random swords of Damocles hanging over my head, or my posts, or do well with uncommunicative, delete happy mods, who cut off their noses to spite their face.

Carry on gentlemen, and cheers, thanks for the interactions, it's been fun, I just wanted to reinforce the consideration that you have alternatives for the eventual "Denouement", as I have seen this happen to many a place in MGTOW circles.


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Uly The Cunning
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20/01/2020 5:54 pm  

I noticed this from last year, when I was having issue with a moderator on the sub reddit. The person would debate everything I said as if I was an uneducated troublemaker. I posted the content that you see on the front page of TIM, and some of that would be temporarily removed, until I made a fuss about it. I don't remember the person, but it appeared that it was just one person that was causing all of the fuss. However, it appeared that the other moderators of that sub reddit were inactive within the sub, only responding to messages.

We are the unpopular truth.

"Remember, you're fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did."
Groucho Marx: Duck Soup (1933)


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TVOR
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20/01/2020 8:33 pm  

@ulynecro

Thank God for this forum and GYOW. True alternatives with open communication, especially compared to that garbage.


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20/01/2020 10:40 pm  

Many people feel threatened by opinions that aren't in complete alignment with their own. Instead of listening to what others have to say, they immediately go into attack mode.  This can be a horrific mistake for several reasons.  

Assuming that one's idealogical opponent is not trying to do something really heinous like crush you or silence you, one's opponent can be a valuable resource.  Who better to point out one's flaws and mistakes than one's opponent? 

Also, current trends such as political correctness and defining others as opponents due to birth characteristics (E.g. Feminists defining all males of European descent as oppressors or Nationalists defining Latinos as threats) can have terribly chilling effect on discourse and free thought. 

Thomas Jefferson understood this in the 18th Century and the US Constitution was designed to offset these type of threats to thought and discourse.


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Newly Divorced
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21/01/2020 12:01 pm  

I got banned off so many subs I gave up. Whats the point if you just get kicked for speaking your mind. Not for me. 


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WOPR
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22/01/2020 9:49 am  

Happened to you too TVOR! If it happened to you we know Reddit is awash with pc. I was angry at first but now glad. No more wasting time on there. 


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Narrow road
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22/01/2020 10:15 am  

That exact same thing happened to me at r/mgtow. I copied the content of an important post to me here. 

That place and the site some of us here are from. Had the issue of capricious censorship. 

I think that it's a controlled destruction operation. Those places have a common thread of posting.

The only content allowed to stay, is a laundry list of complaints. Regarding who a woman has sex with. Also highliting womens' unrealistic expectations of men. The last topic of content, is a pure evil act perpetrated by an individual woman.

Those topics, though important to a man. So we men, can more accurately asses common threats. Are not the center of life on this Earth. 

So then I started to think on that particular subject. My conclusion is that. An allied coalition of reasonable men. Must be stopped by any means necessary.

Overall, from an outside perspective. Mgtow reddit and the .com site. Appears to be only a group of bitter men. Raging about being left out of sexual escapades. As well as anger in response to unfaithful women. 

The shadow mods have made it exactly that way. Anything else from rational men. Is almost immediately deleted. So, those who control the published face of MGTOW. Hinder reasonable men from communication.

Then forming thousands of plans. Then executing those plans without a centrally directing body. This is what terrifies most of the plantation owners. This is why they install shadow mods, and silently purchase websites with the title MGTOW.


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WOPR
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22/01/2020 10:21 am  

Dangerous words Narrow Road. I know I can trust this forum because it wasn't deleted. 


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22/01/2020 6:34 pm  
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Then forming thousands of plans. Then executing those plans without a centrally directing body. This is what terrifies most of the plantation owners. This is why they install shadow mods, and silently purchase websites with the title MGTOW.

Yes. We have suffered under a perfect storm of oppression for far too long.  Our backs are against the wall. The time has come for us to consider how we can all move forward and lead men out of the pit of oppression.


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31/01/2020 11:51 am  

This is why I dont use reddit. They just allow what they want all the while quietting anyone who say what they want. 


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The Evil Genius
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31/01/2020 5:25 pm  

I was on r/MGTOW very briefly more than a year ago. I didn't get punted but it was clear my presence was "inconvenient". All I can conclude from the event is that logic is anathema to the egos of the moderators.   


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TVOR
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01/02/2020 3:25 am  

Gee, look at who was right about r/MGTOW going down after my ban...up since what 2011, and I was right within about a week...of this happening?


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Tomatoshadow2
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01/02/2020 4:10 am  

Yeah, you can't even view the page now without an account, thankful there is this site, Reddit lets the women only reddits stay up, but goes after the ones for men, smfh.


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Newly Divorced
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01/02/2020 12:13 pm  

Wow! The voice of reason! I watch your stuff on youtube. so cool to see you posting on here! Just realized you are you.


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WOPR
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01/02/2020 2:31 pm  

Not surprised. r/ has always been a shitfest ponying up to the women. There it goes another failed social media that just doesn't know it yet. 


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TVOR
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01/02/2020 4:48 pm  

@newly-divorced

Cheers brother. Much appreciated!


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Don Keyknob
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01/02/2020 8:52 pm  
Posted by: @newly-divorced

Wow! The voice of reason! I watch your stuff on youtube. so cool to see you posting on here! Just realized you are you.

He does autographed photo's.... if you ask him nicely. 😉 


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